Julia Mossbridge, PhD, is a cognitive neuroscientist, author, and educator. She is the founder and president of American Electrodynamics, the co-founder and chief science officer of Applied Love Labs, and a senior advisor for American DeepTech. Her latest book, “Have a Nice Disclosure!,” is available now.www.youtube.com/@JuliaMossbridgewww.applied.lovewww.juliamossbridge.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Julia Mossbridge describes training in cognitive neuroscience and computer science, then pivoting toward how humans perceive time. She argues that studying timing naturally leads into questions about precognition and other unusual information effects.
The conversation frames everyday intuitions and “thinking of someone and they call” moments as possible data targets. Mossbridge says controlled experiments and replications still suggest anomalous future-related information at above-chance rates.
Mossbridge claims mainstream science often ignores or discourages research on psychic phenomena. She cites professional pressure to remove “psychic” work from resumes and says some of her papers were hard to find via standard indexing.
She contrasts slow academic cycles with her desire to build tools that use these capacities. The discussion highlights a “dance” between careful controls and moving quickly enough to create usable outcomes.
Rogan argues long-form online dialogue reduces gatekeeping and expands acceptable inquiry. He suggests wide distribution lowers fear of looking foolish and encourages exploration outside institutional incentives.
They criticize left and right incentives to perform intelligence or correctness. Both describe cult-like dynamics such as excommunication and rigid doctrine, including parallels within academia.
They discuss the need for expertise without deference that shuts down questions. The ideal expert shares what is known with uncertainty, rather than using credentials to enforce settled narratives.
Mossbridge initially frames listening as “feminine,” then both refine it as curiosity and emotional maturity. They link poor listening to insecurity and status performance, especially around “alpha” posturing.
Rogan emphasizes physically demanding activities like jiu-jitsu and yoga as forced presence and humility. Mossbridge broadens it to any difficult skill that produces flow and self-transcendence.
Rogan describes a strong internal “conscience voice” that rehearses mistakes to prevent repeats. Mossbridge counters with self-forgiveness and practices that end the day by recalling kindness to enable rest.
They distinguish the brain as physical substrate from the mind as experience and meaning. Mossbridge argues neuroscience still lacks key explanations and that mind management remains difficult without a true guidebook.
Rogan speculates language externalizes thought and could dampen older intuitive or telepathic capacities. Mossbridge agrees there may be a tradeoff, proposing language-related brain systems can inhibit psi-like processing.
Mossbridge cites work suggesting certain left frontal lesions correlate with stronger mind-matter influence tasks. She describes TMS studies that reduce left frontal activity and reportedly increase performance, interpreting it as disinhibiting right-hemisphere processes.
She describes experiments where skin conductance and heart rhythms change before random outcomes. Mossbridge reports men showing stronger anticipatory spikes when “winning” is involved, and suggests cultural or evolutionary roots tied to status and survival.
Mossbridge discusses collaborating with non-speaking autistic individuals who communicate via letterboards or keyboards. She claims they show compelling information transfer, and that their cognition may be less constrained by speech-dominant systems.
She outlines protocols with sender and receiver separated, and with communication partners blinded to targets. Mossbridge emphasizes using richer stimuli and rigorous controls to make the task meaningful and to address skepticism about unintentional signaling.
Mossbridge recounts instances where successive participants referenced prior session topics without normal channels of contact. She interprets this as shared telepathic conversation, while noting how surprising and difficult it is to explain conventionally.
She describes dreams involving specific imagery later discussed with a participant. The exchange is presented as partial but unusually detailed correspondence, raising questions about how symbolic “poetic license” maps onto targets.
They explore whether communications are with deceased individuals or an underlying information field. Mossbridge notes arguments from mediumship research that “dead person contact” could be direct consciousness or indirect access to stored information.
Mossbridge cites research on mice that vocalize audibly and take conversational turns. She uses it to argue that communication capacities may differ by degree rather than by entirely new structures, analogizing to human speech and non-speaking autism.
They wonder how infants learn language with limited exposures compared to machine models. Mossbridge suggests intention sensing or telepathic-like attunement could support early mapping from words to objects.
Mossbridge proposes a speculative model where reality rests on an information layer spanning events across time. She links psi effects and love or self-transcendence states to accessing or influencing that substrate.
They connect her informational substrate idea to esoteric notions like the Akashic records. Mossbridge offers the metaphor of stepping outside linear time like viewing terrain from above to access distant points in past and future.
They discuss superposition, entanglement, and the idea that humans are made of quantum components. Mossbridge argues these features make psi-like claims less absurd than they appear to “linear” everyday intuition.
Mossbridge argues current quantum computing overemphasizes trapping and controlling single particles. She suggests biology demonstrates room-temperature quantum-like processes, implying more naturalistic, collective approaches may be more effective.
She claims plants exploit quantum coherence-like effects efficiently without extreme cooling. This is presented as evidence that engineered systems may be missing key principles that biology already leverages.
Mossbridge speculates that photons’ unusual properties make them candidates for connecting experience and physics. She discusses bosons’ ability to occupy the same state and treats light as less “classically physical” than matter.
They revisit the classic result that single particles produce interference patterns. Mossbridge emphasizes that it challenges billiard-ball intuitions and invites interpretations involving nonlocal behavior in space and possibly time.
Mossbridge describes an experiment where a future random decision about continuing the run is allegedly detectable in earlier interference data. She claims repeated replications and an independent long-run replication by a Berkeley colleague.
They discuss how measuring which slit a particle passes through changes outcomes. Mossbridge prefers “influence” over “change,” suggesting future and measurement context constrain outcomes rather than rewrite an already-fixed past.
Rogan asks whether quantum effects imply computation across multiple universes. Mossbridge argues retrocausality may be sufficient, while acknowledging both could coexist but that unnecessary complexity should be avoided.
They reference findings where psychedelics correlate with decreased activity in some brain networks despite vivid experiences. Mossbridge relates this to filter theories where the brain limits consciousness to make daily life manageable.
They discuss the idea that unusual materials or crashes could be intentional placements to spur technological jumps. Mossbridge frames them as “acupuncture points” in human history that nudge innovation.
Mossbridge argues official revelations matter less than lived experience. She frames meaningful disclosure as self-discovery and building practical demonstrations, not waiting for institutions to validate reality.
Rogan and Mossbridge describe creativity as receiving rather than manufacturing. They discuss how jokes, songs, and inventions seem to arrive from elsewhere and require presence, discipline, and getting out of one’s way.
They speculate that some non-speaking autistic people may have less egoic self-narration, which could aid access to unusual information. They also note the countervailing burden of living in a culture that misjudges them by outward behavior.
Mossbridge describes preparing teams to maintain a positive state before sessions, believing participants can sense it. She ties performance in psi tasks to states like love and self-transcendence.
Mossbridge describes her book as a direct, less-filtered account that emerged through a discovery-writing process. She frames it as encouraging readers to examine their own anomalous experiences and reduce dependence on external authorities.
Mossbridge alleges participation in programs involving memory gaps and unusual sessions as a child. She suggests intelligence agencies or contractors may have targeted children for cognitive, leadership, and psychic potential without proper consent.
She recounts being hired quickly for a short-term role and later having a day-long memory gap with distress. The story is presented as consistent with earlier school experiences of blackouts after closed-door sessions.
Mossbridge describes filing a FOIA request about such programs and receiving rapid agency responses and recruitment steps. She interprets this as potential monitoring of inquiries, while acknowledging uncertainty about the mechanisms.
She speculates the programs may relate to studying radiation effects across generations. Mossbridge cites family uranium mining exposure and locations near nuclear sites as circumstantial patterns motivating the hypothesis.
They acknowledge intelligence agencies’ interest in extraordinary abilities could be strategic. Mossbridge argues the unethical core is experimenting on children without informed consent and normal developmental protection.
Mossbridge describes a therapeutic approach of mentally returning to past selves to offer reassurance and love. She frames it as “weaving love through time” that can aid recovery from abuse or regret.
She presents a nonprofit tool that prompts people to record messages to their future selves. Mossbridge says hearing one’s own voice later can shift perspective, supporting veterans and people dealing with addiction or trauma.
They note remote viewing was only lightly covered despite Mossbridge’s teaching and experimentation background. Both agree to revisit it in a dedicated follow-up conversation.